"What Remains" The Final Cut

In this episode of Rootsland, Henry K connects a sumo wrestler in Japan, Bob Marley in Miami, and the quiet reality most of us eventually face.
After watching the retirement ritual of Yokozuna Terunofuji — where a lifetime of discipline ends with the cutting of a top knot — Henry is reminded of another private moment decades earlier, when Bob Marley made a deeply personal decision at the end of his life.
From Kingston yards to forgotten musicians, from champions to the ones who never made the top division, this episode reflects on what remains when titles fall away and the crowd goes home.
Most of us don’t retire as legends.
We go back home.
And somehow, the dignity is just as real.
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Speaker BBroadcasting live and direct from a magical place at the intersection of words, sound and power, the Roots Land podcast.
Speaker BStories that are music to your ears.
Speaker BCongratulation, Henry, on the hundredth episode of Roots Land.
Speaker AThank you, Sia.
Speaker AAnd thank you to our Roots Land family for sticking with us.
Speaker ASo long.
Speaker BNumber 100.
Speaker AActually, 101.
Speaker AThere's a secret episode that I removed.
Speaker BReally?
Speaker BI didn't know that.
Speaker ABut since this season is called what Remains, we'll talk about that at a later date.
Speaker BOkay, thank you, everyone, for your loyalty, for your support, for your kind words, for tuning in every week.
Speaker BIs it every week?
Speaker AYou really don't know how often we put out the show, do you?
Speaker BYeah, I do.
Speaker BIt's every other week.
Speaker AYeah, every two weeks.
Speaker AGood.
Speaker AThank you.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ASo by now, many of you have probably heard the clip of Gene Simmons, lead singer of kiss, weighing in on whether hip hop belongs in the Rock and Roll hall of Fame.
Speaker AAnd we've been getting a lot of emails and comments asking for my response to the situation.
Speaker ASo I'm gonna play the clip followed by my thoughts.
Speaker CIt's not my music.
Speaker CI don't come from the ghetto.
Speaker CIt doesn't speak my language.
Speaker CAnd I said in print many times, hip hop does not belong in the Rock and Roll hall of fame.
Speaker AWell, Mr. Simmons, with all due respect, we do come from the ghetto, but like so many others, we forgot the language.
Speaker AYou see, you were born Chaim Veitz, son of a Jewish Holocaust survivor, an immigrant kid raised in Queens by a mother who lived through the Nazi camps.
Speaker AAnd that's crucial to this story, because the word ghetto didn't begin with music.
Speaker AIt began with walls.
Speaker AIn the 1500s in Venice, Italy, where Jews were forced to live in separated quarters, restricted, treated as second class citizens.
Speaker AA place you didn't choose to live, but you learned how to survive.
Speaker AAnd I know that story personally.
Speaker AI'm also the son of a survivor named for a grandfather taken to Auschwitz and never came home.
Speaker ASo when I hear the word ghetto, I don't hear a genre.
Speaker AI hear a condition.
Speaker AA place people are pushed into and then create a life anyway.
Speaker AAnd after spending three decades living and producing music in Kingston, Jamaica, it turns out that most of the people that taught me anything meaningful about life came from zinc fenced yards and concrete tenements.
Speaker APeople who didn't choose where they were born, but chose what they became.
Speaker AAnd remember, rock and roll came from the blues, and the blues came from chain gangs, sharecropperfield, Jim Crow and hip Hop burnt buildings, broken schools, kids raising each other because the system told them they were not good enough to succeed.
Speaker AAnd yes, hip hop came with ugly, with anger, with contradictions.
Speaker ABut so did the blues.
Speaker ASo did early rock.
Speaker ASo did reggae.
Speaker AAnd what I learned from those gullies and trenches in Kingston is that you don't get beauty without first surviving the wreckage.
Speaker ARock and roll isn't about guitars versus turntables.
Speaker AIt's about rebellion.
Speaker AAbout revolution.
Speaker ABout resistance.
Speaker AAnd you don't have to enjoy hip hop, but you can't deny it comes from the same root as rock and roll.
Speaker APeople with no power.
Speaker AMaking something loud enough to be heard.
Speaker ADuring the lockdown, right before we launched the show, I stopped watching news.
Speaker AEverything felt loud and obnoxious.
Speaker AEvery conversation felt like it had an agenda, as I've said before, to escape, I started watching nhk, Japan's international television station.
Speaker AI didn't understand most of the language, but I just loved the pace.
Speaker ANothing felt rushed.
Speaker ANo one was shouting.
Speaker AJust cameras lingering on city streets, rural kitchens, ancient temples, trains arriving exactly on
Speaker Btime, far from the outside world.
Speaker DA village in the clouds.
Speaker AAnd for an hour or two each night, it felt like the world slowed down again.
Speaker AExcept for one thing.
Speaker AThe sumo wrestling tournaments.
Speaker AThat was the only time the calm broke.
Speaker BYou know, Henry, I never could get why you were so into that sport.
Speaker BSeriously, they can really get hurt.
Speaker BActually, they do get hurt.
Speaker BPeople that size, when they hit the ground, the force that they hit the ground with, it's bone crushing.
Speaker BIt's devastating to watch.
Speaker AI understand that.
Speaker ABut I guess I just see it as more than a sport.
Speaker AThe chanting, the drumming, the deliberate slowness.
Speaker ATakes you back to an ancient place, shows some things are worth preserving, handing down to a next generation.
Speaker AYou see kids in the audience brought by their parents, grandparents waving banners, cheering for their favorite sumo.
Speaker AThat's when I started following a wrestler named Terina Fuji, a Mongolian kid that came to Japan as a teenager.
Speaker AHe learned the language, learned the culture, learned the discipline, had a successful career early on, won a championship.
Speaker AAnd then everything collapsed.
Speaker AA catastrophic knee injury.
Speaker AThe kind that ends careers.
Speaker AAnd most people would have just walked away.
Speaker ABut instead, Terano Fuji took the humiliation of dropping down to one of the lowest divisions.
Speaker AAnd then slowly, painfully, he fought his way back up.
Speaker AThrough injuries, through diabetes, through disqualifications, through doubt.
Speaker AAnd that's when I tuned into his career and watched the kind of comeback you only hear about in myth, in cultures that still believe in honor and endurance.
Speaker AI watched as Teranofuji won championships, reaching the highest Rank in the sport, a yokozuna.
Speaker AWatching Terano Fuji step up and accept his trophy.
Speaker AWith knees supported by hinge braces, elbows bandaged and fingers taped together, you truly understand what these men sacrificed for their sport.
Speaker AYou see, from the moment a sumo wrestler starts, they enter a stable.
Speaker AAnd then everything changes.
Speaker AThese men force their bodies to grow, eating enormous meals just to keep the weight on, and then spend the entire morning burning it off again.
Speaker AIn hours of intense practice, their bodies collide on a raised clay ring, bone against bone, again and again.
Speaker AYears of pain, often for men who will never reach the top division.
Speaker AThey give their youth to a summit most will never stand on.
Speaker AAnd then one day, it just ends.
Speaker ALast week, I received a notification from NHK that the great Terano Fuji held his retirement ceremony, so I had to tune in.
Speaker AThousands of fans filled the arena for a ritual called the hair cutting ceremony.
Speaker AFrom the day a wrestler enters sumo, he grows his hair like samurai, like monks, like Samson from the Bible.
Speaker AThat top knot grows as his career grows, becoming his identity, his source of pride and strength.
Speaker AAnd when that life ends, the sumo retires.
Speaker AFamily, friends, fellow wrestlers, each steps forward and cuts a small piece of hair.
Speaker AAnd then the final cut, done by the stablemaster, the man who trained Terano Fuji from his teenage years.
Speaker AA massive silver scissors closes.
Speaker AAnd then the topknot grown over a lifetime is cut.
Speaker AThe audience applauds politely.
Speaker AHandwritten signs rise silently in the air.
Speaker AAnd this giant of a man sits on a small stool, fighting back tears.
Speaker AA lifetime of discipline, pain, and purpose gone in seconds.
Speaker AWatching this touching ceremony, I realized it wasn't about sumo at all.
Speaker AIt was about the moment a human being chooses how to let go of who they have been.
Speaker AYears earlier, in a small room in Miami, a very similar kind of letting go was happening.
Speaker ABob Marley was dying, and he didn't want to die.
Speaker AWe don't often talk about that part.
Speaker AWe've turned him into something beyond human, eternal, fearless legend.
Speaker ABut Bob loved life.
Speaker AHe lived completely.
Speaker AAnd like anyone facing the end, he struggled.
Speaker AHe didn't write a will.
Speaker AHe wasn't ready to leave.
Speaker AAnd he held on as long as he could.
Speaker AAnd while he still had choice over his own body, he made one last decision himself.
Speaker AIn December of 1980, as his illness advanced, doctors needed to cut his hair.
Speaker ABob refused.
Speaker AFor Rastafarians, dreadlocks aren't fashion.
Speaker AThey're a covenant identity, faith made visible.
Speaker AAnd cutting them off carries meaning.
Speaker AEventually, the moment came when the body could wait no longer, and Bob chose where it would Happen at home.
Speaker AQuietly, solemnly, his wife Rita held the scissors.
Speaker APrayers were spoken, candles were lit, scriptures were read.
Speaker AAnd just as the stable master, the man who trained Terano Fuji from boyhood, made the final cut.
Speaker ABob Marley's dreadlocks were not cut by a doctor or a stranger.
Speaker AThey were cut by his wife, Rita, the person who walked the whole journey with him.
Speaker ABob didn't surrender his dreadlocks.
Speaker AHe released them.
Speaker AAnd when Bob let go of his locks, he wasn't rejecting Rastafari.
Speaker AHe was transforming from physical to spiritual, from body to essence.
Speaker ASia, why you look that way?
Speaker AThe story really hits home, right?
Speaker BYes.
Speaker BYes, it does hit home.
Speaker BVery relatable.
Speaker BIt reminds me of when I had cancer and the chemotherapy was going to take my hair.
Speaker BAnd I decided, I'm going to shave it before the chemotherapy, take all my hair.
Speaker BAnd that was me feeling like I'm in control.
Speaker AAnd how did it make you feel when you cut it?
Speaker BSad.
Speaker BAnd at the same time, empowered.
Speaker BI was not going to let cancer win.
Speaker BI had two beautiful children and I was going to beat this thing.
Speaker BAnd I did.
Speaker AAnd we are happy for that.
Speaker AWhile I was watching the haircutting ceremony for Terano Fuji, something the announcer casually mentioned before the cutting took place impacted me just as much as the ceremony.
Speaker AHe read out a few names.
Speaker AOther wrestlers retiring from the sport.
Speaker AMen who never even made it close to the top division.
Speaker ANo trophies, no packed arena, no ceremony built around them.
Speaker AMen the sport would soon forget.
Speaker AThe announcer mentioned that one of the former wrestlers was heading back to his hometown in rural Japan to work at his friend's restaurant.
Speaker AAnd there was something in that comment that felt so familiar, because that's who most of us are.
Speaker AWe don't retire as champions.
Speaker AWe don't exit as legends.
Speaker AMost of us go back home and work at a friend's restaurant.
Speaker AAnd yet the dignity is just as earned and the smiles are just as real.
Speaker ALike all the unheralded musicians that the liner notes forgot.
Speaker ALike the athletes who sacrificed blood and bone before they even had a chance to become professional.
Speaker ALike the young mothers who battle sickness and disease and never get a chance to see their children grow.
Speaker AThose lives, those dreams, never completely disappear.
Speaker ASiya, you're still with me, right?
Speaker ARemember earlier in the season when we talked about how we only remember a small fraction of our memories?
Speaker BYeah, I remember.
Speaker BThat is so sad.
Speaker BI mean, think about it.
Speaker BAll the good things that happen in our lives, all the people, the good people that we meet, we don't remember most of that well.
Speaker AThat's the thing.
Speaker ANothing is ever completely gone.
Speaker AThose experiences, those people, those dreams, they become part of us.
Speaker AThey shape our essence, our instincts, our compassion.
Speaker AOur hearts become what our thoughts forget.
Speaker ABecause real strength, real courage, real beauty comes from a place deep inside.
Speaker AA place we carry with us even after everything else is gone.
Speaker BOur heart becomes, but our thoughts forget.
Speaker BI like that.
Speaker AYeah, actually, it is pretty good.
Speaker AWe should maybe put that on a T shirt.
Speaker ATrademark it.
Speaker BLet's do it.
Speaker AOne Love, One Heart 100 episodes We Are Roots Land.
Speaker DI've got my eyes fixed on the father Embracing the truth of him.
Speaker DOh guidance sent me forth to me oh J There's no other Knowing the hearts of men can sometimes be so cold and so I pray each and every day you're giving me strength to face another day so I've got to push on through.
Speaker DLa la la la la I'm living one day at a time La la la la la la.
Speaker DI've got my eyes fixed on the master leaning on him each day as I'm journeying my way oh in the oja I see my future
Speaker Bno other
Speaker Dto me under the heaven and the moon I say and so I pray each and every day to see the morning light so I've got to live upright I'm holding on to you.
Speaker DI've got to hold got to make it through to the rain Time always reveals the move I thank you, John.
Speaker DYou have forgiven me so much.
Speaker DSo I've got to push on through I'm living one day at a time.
Speaker DI've got my eyes fixed on the master Embracing the truth of him O guidance sent me forth to me O Jah There is no other, no other to me under the heaven of the moon I sing and so I pray each and every day.
Speaker BProduced by Henry K. I'm living one
Speaker Dday at a time.






