Exodus Chapter 2: "We and Dem"

5 years after starting out as an intern in the music business, sweeping floors and packing boxes, Henry is working for the most influential man in the music business... sweeping floors and packing boxes. However, Henry may soon learn that working for the man who allegedly "drank the blood of a fowl" in a voodoo ceremony to give Bob Marley cancer may not be the best way to keep friends and influence people.
Rootsland is produced by Henry K Productions Inc. in association with Voice Boxx Studios in Kingston, Jamaica.
Introduction by: Michelle "Kim" Yamaguchi
Guest Vocals by: Patrick "Curly Loxx" Gaynor Adam "Teacha" Barnes Michael Friedman
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Speaker BHow does the system break a person?
Speaker BGet them to conform, have them happily trade in their individuality, their uniqueness, to be part of a machine, a cog in a wheel.
Speaker BIt doesn't happen overnight.
Speaker BThe system is patient, meticulous.
Speaker BThe system has forever.
Speaker BWe don't.
Speaker BWe're human.
Speaker BWe want it all and we want it now.
Speaker BI got news for you.
Speaker BThe system is happy to oblige.
Henry K.If you like money, if you need money, if you'd like to have some money.
Speaker BThe point is, ladies and gentlemen, that greed is good.
Speaker BGreed is right.
Speaker CGreed works always.
Speaker BBe closing, be closing, be closing.
Speaker DThe rich get richer.
Speaker DThat's the law of the land.
Speaker CShow me the money.
Speaker BUh huh.
Glenn HudloffYeah.
Speaker BHenry, pick up the phone.
Speaker BOkay, Mom, I got it.
Speaker BHenry, I got it.
Speaker BCan I listen?
Speaker BNo, mom, please.
Speaker BI got it.
Speaker BHello?
Glenn HudloffHi, Henry, this is Glenn Hudloff, general manager of Island Trading Co.
Glenn HudloffHere in New York City.
Glenn HudloffHow are you today?
Speaker BHi, Mr.
Speaker BHutloff, how you doing?
Glenn HudloffGreat, Real great.
Glenn HudloffWe received a copy of your resume over here.
Speaker BA copy of my resume?
Glenn HudloffUh huh.
Glenn HudloffWe'd love to set up an interview with you for a job we're trying to fill.
Speaker BCool.
Glenn HudloffI'm not sure how much you know about Island Trading Company, but I know you're familiar with our owner, Chris Blackwell.
Speaker BChris Blackwell?
Speaker BYes, I am.
Speaker BI'm assuming when Mr.
Speaker BHutloff said familiar with Chris Blackwell, he was alluding to the fact I spent two years stalking him and just about everyone else at the Island Records A and R department in hopes of getting a record deal.
Speaker BI don't think anyone ever officially got back to me with an answer, which I guess was my answer.
Speaker BPretty much the same reaction as the other 28 record labels, production companies and publishers.
Speaker BI sent my demo tape out.
Speaker BAt some point I stopped mailing music and started sending out resumes.
Glenn HudloffSo, just some background on Island Trading Company.
Glenn HudloffWe manage various Blackwell business ventures, including Bob Marley Music, Palm Pictures, which is his film company, and Island Outposts, a resort lifestyles brand.
Glenn HudloffWe also share our offices here in New York with Island Records.
Speaker BReally?
Speaker BIsland Records?
Glenn HudloffUm, listen, Henry, we know you want to be in the music business.
Speaker BYes, I do.
Speaker BUh huh.
Glenn HudloffBut right now the job opening is really just for a T shirt sale.
Speaker BA T shirt salesman?
Glenn HudloffIt's nothing glamorous, Henry, but it is a starting point, and it could lead to something up the road.
Speaker BWell, Mr.
Speaker BHutloff, you do know that I was banned from the offices over there at island, right?
Glenn HudloffI've heard the stories.
Glenn HudloffWe'll get you off that list.
Speaker BWell, when can I come in?
Glenn HudloffI'm available all next week.
Glenn HudloffAs you know, we're located on 4th and Broadway, right above Tower Reference.
Glenn HudloffI'm going to pass you over to Kat at the front desk, and she'll set up an appointment.
Speaker BWho is Chris Blackwell?
Speaker BExactly?
Speaker BAnd that's the reason he's the coolest man in the music business.
Speaker CI'm cool like that.
Speaker DI'm cool.
Speaker BIn an industry filled with music moguls with oversized egos looking to outshine their artists, Chris Blackwell, the reclusive founder of Island Records, has always been content being the man behind the curtains with an uncanny sense for spotting authentic talent and the marketing prowess and money to make them stars.
Speaker BHe has silently crafted the careers of some of the most important acts in music and has earned all the honors and awards given to industry giants, including his induction into the Rock hall of Fame and the title as the most influential music executive in the past 50 years.
Speaker BFrom my days as a college intern at ross records in D.C.
Speaker Band throughout my time working at Tough Gong Records in Kingston, it seemed everyone I met had a Chris Blackwell story.
Speaker BAnd like tales told of his island recording artist, Bob Marley, it's often difficult to tell the truth from myth.
Speaker BApparently, Mr.
Speaker BBlackwell likes it like that.
Speaker BPraised by many as a prophetic genius responsible for bringing Jamaican music to the world.
Speaker BCriticized by others as someone who exploited the island's most valuable resource, its people.
Speaker BAfter all, Chris Blackwell, through his mother's lineage, Blanche Lindo Blackwell is a descendant from one of Jamaica's most powerful families, who for centuries profited exporting commodities from the Caribbean.
Speaker BRum, sugar, spices.
Speaker BOh, yeah, and West African slaves.
Speaker BAfter being kicked out of boarding school in England, Blackwell returns to his childhood home of Jamaica, like many teenagers, struggles to find his place.
Speaker BChildren of wealthy parents usually don't have to struggle as hard.
Speaker BAnd thanks to family contacts, he gets a job as a gopher on the set of the 1961 James Bond movie Dr.
Speaker BNo being filmed on the island.
Speaker BHello, New York.
Speaker BYour Pan Am 323 just landed.
Speaker BKingston, Jamaica.
Speaker BIan Fleming, the author of the Bond series, had a residence in Jamaica, where he wrote and set several of the Bond stories.
Speaker BThe writer's real life adventures almost as exciting as his fictional alter ego, a young naval officer In World War II, Commander Fleming is sent to the Caribbean on a mission to scout out the possible threat of German U boats spying in the area.
Speaker BIt's never disclosed if he ever finds the enemy.
Speaker BBut he discovers Jamaica, falls in love with her unspoiled tranquility, dreams of returning to the rugged north coast cliffs and once again being absorbed by endless tropical sunsets.
Speaker BWhen the bloody and unforgiving war finally ends, Commander Fleming fulfills his dream and returns to the island.
Speaker BFinds the perfect location on Orcabessa Bay, where he buys and transforms an old donkey racetrack into a villa called Goldeneye, aptly named for his secret mission in World War II.
Speaker BAfter a morning of spearfishing and frolicking on his private beach, he would head back inside Goldeneye.
Speaker BAnd from his north coast bedroom window overlooking the gentle waves, Ian Fleming would go on to create 007, the world's most famous and charismatic spy.
Speaker BCome up with intricate plot twists that made his best selling thrillers so engaging.
Speaker BThe tranquil sea wasn't the only seductive view that Mr.
Speaker BFleming enjoyed while writing.
Speaker BHe had a beautiful muse they say was the inspiration for his most memorable female characters, including the iconic Pussy Galore.
Speaker BHer name Blanche Lindo Blackwell, Chris's mother.
Speaker BBy the late 50s and early 60s, the North coast of Jamaica becomes the Hollywood of the Caribbean.
Speaker BA list celebrities jet in and out as guests at Fleming's Golden Eye retreat or his friend author Noel Coward's nearby Villa Firefly.
Speaker DLooking for shells?
Glenn HudloffNo, I'm just looking.
Glenn HudloffI'm just looking.
Speaker BErrol Flynn, Katharine Hepburn, Elizabeth Taylor and Richard Burton were some of the high profile guests allured by the island's natural beauty and mellow low key vibes.
Speaker BAfter sunset, Ocho Rios, upscale resorts and downtown clubs would come to life.
Speaker BTinseltown royalty would share hot crowded dance floors with tourists and local revelers rocking to the latest sound fresh from Kingston.
Speaker BAn uptempo groove with hypnotic backbeat called ska.
Speaker BBlending elements of mento, jazz and rb.
Speaker BIt was originated in the cramped rehearsal rooms at the famed Alpha Boy School in Kingston by aspiring ghetto musicians perfected at all night rum infused jam sessions across the island.
Speaker BSka music was starting to trend.
Speaker BChris Blackwell is quick to notice.
Speaker BHe sees opportunity to market the music in the United Kingdom primarily to its large Caribbean immigrant community.
Speaker BA diaspora of tens of thousands that moved to England in search of a better life and settled into working class communities in London, Manchester and Birmingham.
Speaker BWorking long hours for low pay in poor and unfamiliar conditions, they missed their families and longed for their island culture.
Speaker BSka music became an instant and gratifying connection to life back home.
Speaker BThe same songs that were blasting at street dances in Kingston were playing in their local London basement parties.
Speaker BBlackwell had the foresight to see the world was getting smaller and the bridge that connected the Caribbean with the rest of the world was music.
Speaker BThese were more than just great songs to dance to.
Speaker BThese were stories about life and love, politics and play.
Speaker BThe world's oldest form of communication was also the newest.
Speaker BIn 1959, Chris Blackwell starts Island Records.
Speaker BThe name is inspired by Noel Coward's novel Island in the Sun.
Speaker BHe spends years carving out a niche for Jamaican music.
Speaker BSelling imported records from the back of his Mini Cooper.
Speaker BHoning in on the right formula for producing and distributing songs true to their Caribbean roots that also cross over to a mainstream audience.
Speaker BBy 1964, he finds the perfect blend and strikes gold when he produces a ska cover version of the 50s RB hit My Boy Lollipop sung by a 15 year old Jamaican sensation named Millie Small.
Speaker BSales top over 6 million units worldwide and it becomes the biggest selling Jamaican record of all time.
Speaker BFor the next decade, Island Records gains a reputation as an independent music powerhouse.
Speaker BWith his laid back artist friendly approach and cool zen like demeanor, Blackwell signs and develops a catalog of eclectic talent that tops the rock charts.
Speaker BCat Stevens, Jethro Tull, Emerson Lake and Palmer Spencer Davis group with a young Steve Winwood, just to name a few.
Speaker BThen one autumn night, the stars align over the roof of his London office when the ascending music mogul comes face to face with a struggling but confident trio from Trench Town.
Speaker BAnd with a handshake, a reggae revolution begins.
Speaker BIn 1972, the Wailers, Bob Marley, Peter Tosh and Bunny Livingston had been in the game for a minute.
Speaker BTo their credit, managed to make a name for themselves in Jamaica's competitive, often ruthless music industry.
Speaker BClimbing their way up the charts with a combination of grit, hustle and raw talent.
Speaker BStill, it seemed their die hard determination to escape the Trenchtown ghetto had been met with obstacles at every turn.
Speaker BUndeterred after an abrupt end to a failed European tour, the Whalers were at a crossroads looking to start a new chapter.
Speaker BHungry for international success, hungry for dinner, they were broken.
Speaker BTheir current financial situation did nothing to diminish their Kingston swagger.
Speaker BAs they made their way to the Island Records office that Chris Blunden night, Bob, Peter and Bunny knew what they had musically, spiritually, was priceless.
Speaker BIf they could find the right record label that believed in them, the Wailers, their little group from the shantytown slums of Kingston, could conquer the world.
Speaker FHey, what a night.
Speaker BCool.
Speaker FI am what you say, Bonnie?
Speaker DSure.
Speaker CWords have never been spoken, my brother.
Speaker CIt is indeed very cold.
Speaker CThat's why a man could never live in Babylon.
Speaker CYeah, I see.
Speaker CI don't trust that bomb guy, Chris Whitewell.
Speaker CStill, I am I into slavery.
Speaker FYou see, it is the substance of things.
Speaker FWill find the evidence of things not seen.
Speaker FYou know, Peter, I really think we go and get this deal.
Speaker FRemember, no matter what happened, Chris Blackwell need us more than we need.
Speaker FAmen.
Speaker FAmen.
Speaker BThe Wailers were known for being unruly, uncompromising, rude boys.
Speaker BA reputation that scared most music executives away.
Speaker BFor Chris Blackwell, that's what he looked for in an artist.
Speaker BIn a show of respect and trust, with just a handshake, Blackwell advances the wailers £4,000 to record an album for Island.
Speaker BAnd those close to the music executive thought he was crazy, that he would never see a finished record or the money.
Speaker CChris, man, you can't be serious.
Speaker CI heard that you gave those Rastas a bag of money to record an album for you.
Speaker CYou think you know these people, they probably spend it all off on ganja already.
Speaker CYou will never see that money again.
Speaker COr any music to show for it, for that matter.
Speaker BOnce again, Blackwell shows vision that others fail to see.
Speaker BHe senses the Wailers have something deeper than music, something religious.
Speaker BBob Marley is the real thing.
Speaker BCould it be that Blackwell's faith is triggered by his own mystical connection to Rastafari that dates back to his younger days in Jamaica?
Speaker BWhen Chris is left stranded at sea in a boating accident off Hellshire beach, he barely manages to make it to shore.
Speaker BExhausted, dehydrated, uncertain if he'll even survive, when miraculously, a local Rastafisherman appears and helps nurse him back to strength with Ital natural remedies and sweet Rastafarian melodies.
Speaker BChris Blackwell, privileged white descendant from one of Jamaica's most powerful families, is moved, humbled by the Rastaman's act of life saving kindness.
Speaker BIt's an experience that plants a spiritual seed that yields a pay it forward moment all those years later on a cold London rooftop, when he gives £4,000 to three rebel Rostas with a cause.
Speaker BHalf a billion dollars later, it turns out to be one of the greatest investments in music history.
Speaker BA decision still paying financial and spiritual dividends.
Speaker BMore importantly, it proved to the record industry that you don't have to compromise the message or integrity of the music to be successful.
Speaker BFive years after a college internship in the music business, sweeping floors and answering phones, I was now working in New York City for Chris Blackwell's Island Trading Company, sweeping floors and answering phones.
Speaker BMy most creative decision of the day.
Speaker BDeciding on whether to walk across the street for a cheeseburger platter or order in a Hero Boy chicken parm sub.
Speaker BIsland Records had digitally remastered and reissued the entire Bob Marley catalog on compact disc.
Speaker BOur company, Island Trading, had the rights to place an insert advertising two Marley T shirts in every copy of the album.
Speaker BThey were selling like crazy, and we were shipping orders nonstop all over the world.
Speaker BProblem was, the picture of Bob Marley in the insert didn't exactly match the one on the T shirt.
Speaker BAnd although I was told it was an innocent printing mistake, some of the customers that bought the T shirts were a little unhappy with, shall I say, the contrast between what they ordered and what they received.
Speaker BIsland Trading Company.
Speaker BThis is Henry.
Speaker DYeah, hello.
Speaker DYeah, Henry, listen, I got my.
Speaker DI got my T shirts in the mail here.
Speaker DAnd, I mean, what's up with these T shirts?
Speaker DThey whitewashed Bob Marley.
Speaker DHis complexion is completely white.
Speaker DI mean, come on, man.
Speaker DWhat are going over there in Battle Babylon?
Speaker DRidiculous, you know?
Speaker BYes, we do apologize.
Speaker BThere was an issue with the silk screens at the printer, and we can issue a refund.
Speaker DPretty typical of Chris Blackwell to whitewash Bob Marley.
Speaker DThere's something wrong with these T shirts.
Speaker DAnd Brian, I don't even know what they did.
Speaker BBrian, hold up, man.
Speaker BI know your voice anywhere.
Speaker BThis is Henry.
Speaker BYour old friend Henry.
Speaker DNo way.
Speaker DTough gong, Henry from way back.
Speaker DWhat's going on, man?
Speaker DIt's been a long time, my brethren.
Speaker BYears.
Speaker BYears.
Speaker BI can't believe it.
Speaker BWhere are you these days?
Speaker BWhat are you up to?
Speaker DYeah, man, I'm living in New Hope, Pennsylvania.
Speaker DI still chat on the mic when I get a chance, you know.
Speaker BOkay, I'm sure you do.
Speaker DYeah, man.
Speaker DI met this sweet girl named Sarah where I work.
Speaker DShe's amazing, Henry.
Speaker DShe makes me so happy.
Speaker BOh, that's awesome.
Speaker DBrad, you gotta meet her, man.
Speaker BIf you guys are in New Hope, you gotta come into the city, come by island and check out the place.
Speaker DWhat?
Speaker DYou want me to come to Island Records?
Speaker DYeah, I come.
Speaker DBut I'm gonna bring garlic and a wooden steak.
Speaker DYou know, Lee, Scratch Perry said Blackwell was a vampire.
Speaker BOh, really?
Speaker DYeah, man, for real.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker DLee Scratch Perry said he saw Chris Blackwell drink the blood of a chicken in a voodoo ceremony to give Bob cancer.
Speaker BWell, it's great to hear your voice.
Speaker BAnd it's great to hear you're still the same old Brian from Colorado.
Speaker BAnyway, come in for lunch and I promise we'll keep the chicken blood off the menu.
Speaker DYep, the same old naive Henry.
Speaker DLike a brother.
Speaker DBut remember, I have no friends in high society.
Speaker BOh, I couldn't forget Brian, my friend, the sufferer from Fort Collins, Colorado.
Speaker BSometimes Brian couldn't find the right words to say to express his feelings, but somehow he always managed to find the right song.
Speaker BThe classic Marley line he sang before hanging up.
Speaker BThe perfect example, the song we in Them, appears on Marley's final studio album, Uprising, released only a year before he died.
Speaker BThe lyrics of the song are a stark reminder that when all is said and done, society breaks down to two simple groups.
Speaker BWe and them.
Speaker BThe haves and the have nots.
Speaker BThose sitting comfortably inside fancy Manhattan office buildings ordering in chicken parmesan heroes and those struggling to get in the doors.
Speaker BNow that I worked at island, whether I liked it or not, I was them.
Glenn HudloffYou're one of them now.
Speaker BI should have let you burn.
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